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02/18/2011

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Beau

Obama is criticized for meddling in state affairs stemming from the Wisconsin union standoff. As an added bonus, we are treated to a photograph showing the tolerant, non-Hitler comparing Democratic core constituent in action.

It is reported that the DNC has sent in the obamination's attack dogs, can you only imagine the RNC doing that! The MSM would have it all over the place, JR at the News & Recordless would have had it in bold letters, front page, but you hear merely a peep out of the MSM! NADA! Beau

Spag

It's all Sarah Palin's fault.

jaycee

Indeed, there is a good correlation for using Hitler as a symbol in this fight as Obama is following in the footsteps of another well-known politician:

"As things stand today, the trade unions in my opinion cannot be dispensed with. On the contrary, they are among the most important institutions of the nation's economic life. Their significance lies not only in the social and political field, but even more in the general field of national politics. A people whose broad masses, through a sound trade-union movement, obtain the satisfaction of their living requirements and at the same time an education, will be tremendously strengthened in its power of resistance in the struggle for existence."

Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1926

Stormy

I thought that Obama called for a new era of civility? I guess not.

We now know that when teachers unions say "It's for the children", we know that they really mean "It's for the union". These are the people teaching our children? Makes a good case for charter schools and home-schooling.

Stormy

By the way, when was the last time that a sitting president unleashed his political party campaign organizing apparatus against a state government and meddled in the conduct of its legit and legal financial business? I'm not sure that it has ever happened, at least in this country. Someone help me, if I am wrong.

bubba

"Someone help me, if I am wrong."

Let's ask Buie. He's the expert on EVERYTHING, except when he's not.

Stormy

I suppose this pretty much says it all:

In total, unions spent in excess of $400 million electing Barack Obama in 2008. If the Obama campaign wants to raise $1 billion for the 2012 campaign, they're going to have to do everything they can to get unions on board.

So here's the Wisconsin public sector union showdown in a nutshell: A newly-elected GOP governor is trying to rein in a special interest by enacting reforms that he explicitly campaigned on.

And the Obama administration is siding with the special interest.

axelskater

A toast to our Right to Work Status in NC!

Spag

Stormy, although I think Obama does have some socialist tendencies, I don't believe he is a true socialist. I do believe that he is a unionist- which simply means he uses government to force the private sector to do its dirty work. That's the union mentality, highly regulatory and coercive action.

Stormy

Spag, you are much too charitable when it comes to Obama. I think that at a minimum he is a statist; the practice or doctrine of giving a centralized government control over economic planning and policy.

And, when you think about it, trade unions arose basically out of Marxist theory, in essence, the struggle of the economic classes. Trade unions are good as training grounds for the class struggle, and the Democrat Party is first and foremost about class struggles. You see it in their speeches and legislation all of the time. So, if Obama is a unionist at heart, he is in the range of Marxism and Lenonism Theory. He certainly cannot be confused as a capitalist or free market person.

Brenda  Bowers

I am not yet ready to start blogging so am taking others posts to my site. Stealing this one Spag. :) BB

Spag

It's all good, Brenda. I swiped one from Joe earlier today.

Roch101

You do understand, don't you jaycee, that Hitler wrote that as an observation of fact and as a prelude to explaining why he found it necessary to destroy the trade unions? I wouldn't want people here to be misinformed by selective quotations.

He continued:

And so there were only two other possibilities: either to recommend that our own party comrades leave the unions, or that they remain in them and work as destructively as possible.

In general I recommended this latter way.

Especially in the year 1922-23 this could be done without difficulty; for the financial benefit which during the inflation period accrued to the trade union from our members in their ranks, who due to the youth of our movement were not yet very numerous, was practically nil. But the damage to it was very great, for the National Socialist supporters were its sharpest critics and thus its inner disrupters.

Stormy

I also wouldn't want people here to be misinformed by selective quotations, giving a wrong impression. Hitler did, in fact, disband trade unions in Nazi Germany, and he did so to create a new trade union organization, which could be controlled by the Nazi Regime. Hitler consolidated all potential opposition into organizations that could be controlled. So, there was a trade union in Nazi Germany, the German Labour Front

"The German Labour Front (German: Deutsche Arbeitsfront, DAF) was the National Socialist (Nazi) trade union organisation which replaced the free and diverse Weimar Republic trade unions that Adolf Hitler outlawed on 2 May 1933, after his rise to power."

"DAF's leader was Robert Ley, who stated its aim as 'to create a true social and productive community' (Smelster, 1988). Theoretically the DAF existed to act as a medium through which workers and owners could mutually represent their interests. Wages were set by the 12 DAF trustees. The employees were given relatively high set wages, security of work, dismissal was increasingly made difficult, social security programmes were started by the Arbeitsfront, leisure programmes were started, canteens, pauses and regular working times were established, and therefore generally the German workers were satisfied by what the DAF gave them in repaying for their absolute loyalty."

"Employment contracts created under the Weimar Republic were abolished and renewed under new circumstances in the DAF. Employers could demand more of their workers, while at the same time workers were given increased security of work and increasingly enrolled into social security programmes for workers. The organisation, by its own definition, combated capitalism, liberalism, but also revolution against the factory owners and the national socialist state. The DAF however did openly prefer to have large companies nationalised by the German state, instead of privately owned companies."

"DAF membership was theoretically voluntary, but any workers in any area of German commerce or industry would have found it hard to get a job without being a member. Membership required a fee within the range of 15 pfennig to 3 Reichsmark, depending on the category a member fell into in a large scale of 20 membership groups. A substantially large amount of income was raised through fees. In 1934, the total intake was 300,000,000 Reichsmark."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Labour_Front

bubba

"Hitler did, in fact, disband trade unions in Nazi Germany, and he did so to create a new trade union organization, which could be controlled by the Nazi Regime. Hitler consolidated all potential opposition into organizations that could be controlled. So, there was a trade union in Nazi Germany, the German Labour Front...."

.....thus validating the quotation jaycee used.

But things like that are not important to the renowned Fact Checker Extraordinaire himself, right?

The only question is whether Buie will attempt some piece of revisionist history in response.

Spag

Bubba, I think the only question is whether Roch is prepared to call Barack Obama a bigot for opposing same-sex marriage like he called conservatives who opposed it.

The lesson is to not expect any mea culpa. We see this time and time again among the local Leftists who are never wrong or hypocritical about anything.

bubba

"The lesson is to not expect any mea culpa. We see this time and time again among the local Leftists who are never wrong or hypocritical about anything."

Is it a result of some sort of blood oath they've sworn to uphold?

Or is it just another example of the Mass(ive) Arrogance that permeates their psyche?

jaycee

Roch selectively selects his selections to support his angle of attack on the facts.
Sometimes he does it well, sometimes he doesn't.

bubba

Sometimes we catch him (usually when we taake the time to fact-check him), and sometimes we just ignore him, which is the generally the most appropriate treatment for someone like him.

Spag

The real point is that the real point regarding the use of the Hitler reference in the photograph was ignored because it doesn't fit the narrative.

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